Lie is the angle from the shaft to the ground when the golf club is placed in a normal playing stance position. Twist face presents a revolutionary new face curvature with a corrective face angle on offcenter hits, engineered to reduce side spin and deliver straighter shots. Rick shiels senior pga golf coach at trafford golf centre talks with nick hibbs at tour x golf about incorrect lie angle and how it can affect the. For speeds of mph and above, try a loft between 4 and 7 degrees. The correct lie angle is determined by many factors such as height, arm length, leg length, grip, posture and so on. A slice is caused by the most common of swing flaws. For example, a typical driver has a lie angle of about 55 degrees, while a 9irons lie angle. One of the most important, misunderstood and overlooked aspects of your golf clubs is the lie angle. Most other fairway woods increase the lie angle by 1 degree for every inch decrease in length i. Utilizing the most exact bending machines in the industry, our pga tour superstore certified club repair technicians can adjust your equipment to the exact loft and lie angle measurements required to help you play your best. Does lie angle matter for drivers clubs, grips, shafts.
We recommend checking that the lie angles and lofts of your clubs are correct before the start of each golf season, ensuring more consistent distance and directional control. Lie angle pertains to the angle created by the head end of the shaft with the ground as you rest the club s sole on the turf. Woods are mainly used for longdistance fairway or tee shots. An angle of less then 56 degrees, therefore, has a flatter lie angle, while an angle of more than 56 degrees is classified as a more upright club.
We recommend checking that the lie angles and lofts of your clubs are correct before the start of each golf season. When taylormade launched the r9 family of drivers, they talked about hosel adjustments in terms of left and right, i. To prove just how much an adjustable driver can change your game, we collected new drivers from callaway, cobra, nike, ping and taylormade. How to measure and adjust driver lie angle flat vs upright golf. Even for irons and wedges, assuming one hits ball first then turf not for driver of course, unless the lie angles are extremely off like 5 etc, if the ball contacts the club face when the club face is square, especially in a driver, won. If you stand up, the club gets closer to your body in order to reach the ground, your shaft angle also gets more upright. Importance of driver lie angle clubs, grips, shafts. Driver lie angle is the angle in degrees between the centerline of the hosel and the ground line when the ground line is in contact with the center of the sole from. Jan 29, 2020 the lie angle of a golf club is the angle that is formed between the club shaft and the ground when the club is soled properly at address. Taller golfers fitted for longer clubs tend to need more upright lie angles, while. Having an incorrect lie angle on your golf club can have a huge impact on your ability to hit the ball straight. How is the lie of a golf club measured hireko custom.
Golf clubmaker reference specifications on golf club loft, lie, length, swingweight, and grip sizing. The longer the club the flatter the lie angle is needed. Your lie angle is the angle between the centre of the shaft and the sole of the club, and its important as it can affect how your club enters the turf at. Why its so important to have the right lie angle practical. M1 driver m1 fairway m1 rescue m2 driver m2 fairway m2 irons m2 tour irons psi irons psi tour irons kalea ef wedges phenom os putters spider limited red spider. How to measure and adjust driver lie angle flat vs upright. How adjustable drivers can fix your swing flaw golf digest. Golf club golf and lie angle protractor quickly measures irons, woods, putters. The key is to have a club with a proper lie angle that ensures the sole of the club is parallel with the ground at impact, thus eliminating lie angle induced errant shots. If your lie angle is too flat, you will tend to slice the ball. Lie angle is, for most people, more important than club length. If you are between 53 and 62 then lie angle will be more of a consideration than club. Each golfer hit 7 shots with a 6iron set at each of the following lie angles.
An incorrect lie negatively impacts your golf club. Heres how to adjust your driver face angle to improve. For every 12 inch you add to a club, the lie angle is effected by 12. Because lie angle has a correlation to directional control, an incorrect lie angle can decrease shot accuracy. Most golf companies publish their lie angles, for each model of driver head, on the internet, but a simple protractor out of your tool box will do. The golf clubhead is placed into the gauge and adjusted until the center of the sole touches the base of the gauge with the club in the face angle designed by the. It can even cause you to develop swing compensations to correct for it, preventing you from ever. Lie angles almost always range from the mid50 degrees in drivers to the mid60 degrees. Cast clubs are recommended to be bent at a maximum of 2 degrees. Driver basics for longer straighter golf shots duration. Hitting on the toe with the toe digging is a sign of early extension.
Effect of lie angle on drivers japanese golf clubs. Second in the series of fitting golf clubs explained, we talk about fitting your clubs for lie angle. Golf club lie angles i read what this one golf pro said once. Make sure that the center of the sole touches the ground.
The lie angle is defined as the angle made between the shaft and clubhead. Brent kelley is an awardwinning sports journalist and golf expert with over 30 years in print and online journalism. A 3 iron will be much less offline than a pw with the same lie angle. Jan 15, 2018 in the most extreme case, a tester could barely put the club on the ball with the flat lie angle, leading to an average total distance that was 63 yards short of his best fit. May 14, 2018 a deep, heelbias center of gravity, plus offset and a lighter swingweight, cure a slice and launch shots high. Adjust the lie if your strike is good, but your digging the heel or toe. The lie angle of any golf club is the angle formed between the center of the shaft and the sole, or ground line, of the club. The term upright describes a club with a more vertical lie than standard.
Drivers do not have an effective lie angle as are not made to hit off the ground. Cleveland golf cg15 zip grooves 5210 52 loft 10 lie wedge golf club see. How the clubhead sits at address has no bearing on performance. Aug 25, 2015 hosel adjustments loft, lie, and face angle. Understanding how lie angle affects your golf swing golficity. With the exception of putters, longer clubs require smaller, flatter lie angles than shorter clubs. The summary chart below compares the characteristics of a typical set of 14 golf clubs. Long clubs have flatter lie angles than shorter clubs, so the angle formed with a driver is going to be lower than with a pitching wedge, for instance. I understand how in an iron, if the lie angle is too flat or too upright, it will cause either the heel or toe to hit turf first, affecting ball flight.
The easiest way to measure the lie angle is by using an industrial golf club. Understanding and fitting driver face angle and loft ralph maltby. We reveal why lie angle is important and how it affects your shots to help you get a grip on. Included are the club name, the loft angle, the lie angle, and the typical distance that can be achieved by the average golfer. Most golf companies publish their lie angles, for each model of driver. Its easiest to think about this concept if you imagine that you are standing behind a golfer on an extension of the target line, watching that player make a swing. How to determine which loft you should get on your driver.
But when you tilt the lie angle of a highly lofted club face. The longest club, the driver, has a standard lie angle of 56 degrees. Lets take a real world example based on an article written by barton creek golf. First, lie angle should be fitted dynamically, meaning that the club fitter should examine the lie angle when the club is impacting the ball. A club with an upright lie angle has a higher angle than that of the standard. If your lie angle is too upright, then you will tend to hook the ball. On the other end of the spectrum, we had a player whose averages were 175. The lie angle of the club is the angle formed by the shaft and the sole of the club. Compare the feel of drivers within the loft range that fits your club head speed at the practice facility at your local golf equipment store or pro shop. Some oems offer drivers that have adjustable lie angles 2. For the driver, lie angle is less of an accuracy issue due to its lower loft, but if the toe of the driver is severely up in the air in the address position due to how the length chosen affects the set up of the lie for the golfer the driver lie should definitely be fit to the golfer if for no other reason than confidence and. The traditional way to measure the lie angle of a golf club is to use an impact board and. A radical departure from traditional driverface design, twist face is engineered to take you farther and straighter right down the center of the fairway.
Besides the length of the club, the lie angle of your equipment also plays an important role in influencing your shot. Indeed, it will generally be smallest in the driver and much larger for a short wedge such as a lob wedge. Understanding and fitting driver face angle and loft ralph. Wedges and the 9iron have the largest standard lie angle, at 64 degrees. For example, standard lie for a driver is 56, so any driver with a lie angle of 57 or more is considered upright. The loft of a club is the angle formed by the intersection of the line of the clubface and the line of the shaft. If youre tall or short, andor have an unusually shallow or steep swing, you may want to think about visiting your local club professional who can. How is the lie of a golf club measured hireko custom golf.
The most important thing about measuring lie angle for each particular golfer is how the. Before getting into any deep discussion about lie angles, one must understand how a golf club should be. Driver lie angle is the angle in degrees between the centerline of the hosel and the ground line when the ground line is in contact with the center of the sole from heel to toe. The easiest way to measure the lie angle is by using an industrial golf club specification gauge. How to measure and adjust driver lie angle flat vs. The standard lie angle of drivers and woods is in the range between 56 and 60 degrees, hybrid rescue clubs. The lie angle of the golf club is the angle formed between the center of the shaft and the sole of the club ground when the club is in its proper address position grooves parallel to the ground see picture below typical values of lie angles. The lie of a club is the angle formed by the intersection of the line of the shaft and the line of the ground when the clubhead is resting flat on the ground. Golfers with club head speeds below 85 mph should use a loft angle between 14 and 20 degrees. I have read numerous articles that say that driver lie angle is not important because the face is so upright as opposed to high lofted irons where lie angle matters a lot. Understanding how lie angle affects your golf swing. The driver lie angle is measured between the shaft and the ground with the club placed in the playing position.
Why its so important to have the right lie angle practical golf. The importance of lie angles in golf the diy golfer. A driver would be the same lie angle as a sand wedge if not. The special golf club gauge in my studio is capable of accurately measuring loft, lie and face angle in 110th degree increments. We gathered 7 golfers of varying handicaps for this test. The importance of lie angle with golf clubs golf channel. Six years later, the conversation has changed to adjusting loft. The lie angle of any golf club is the angle formed between the center of the shaft and the sole, or ground line, of the club when. The lie angle of a golf club is the angle that is formed between the. The single axis swing does not need more upright lie angles in clubs.
Nov 02, 2018 why lie angle of your golf club is crucial to your golf game. Why lie angle of your golf club is crucial to your golf game. The lie angle is the angle between the shaft and the sole of the clubhead. A golf club s lie angle measures the angle formed by the shaft and the clubheads sole. Each club is composed of a shaft with a grip and a club head. The driver, which is two plus inches longer than the 3 wood the real reason why it is more difficult to control than a 3wood. Second, lie is fitted after shaft length has been selected because length affects dynamic lie angle. A golf club is a club used to hit a golf ball in a game of golf.
Compare the feel of drivers within the loft range that fits your club head speed at the practice facility at your local golf. Each golfer was also fit for lie angle on a lie board. The more loft a club has, the more magnified an incorrect lie angle will be when it comes to the direction of your golf ball. The lie angle of the golf club is the angle formed between the center of the shaft and the sole of the club ground when the club is in its proper address position grooves parallel to the ground see picture below.
I have provided a visual below to further explain this. A club with a flat lie angle means that its angle is lower than that of the standard club. However, that method is coming into question and has been shown to not be as accurate for a number of reasons. Nov 27, 2012 golf club lie angle address vs impact. As for lie angle change influencing overall club moi 3 degree lie angle change results in roughly 18 of an inch change in club length. Included are the club name, the loft angle, the lie angle.
Just as a person who pushes the ball would be helped by an upright lie angle. Improper lie angles will cause directional control problems. Upright lie angle how it affects your shot under par goals. For the driver, lie angle is less of an accuracy issue due to its lower loft, but if the toe of the driver is severely up in the air in the address position due to how the length chosen affects the set up of the lie for the golfer the driver lie. According to experts, a club with an upright lie angle is much. Club length and lie angle club fitting team titleist.
Heres how to adjust your driver face angle to improve your. The drivers have an adjustable hosel system to adjust loft, lie and face angle, and they come equipped with honmas lightweight vizard shaft that ranges from 43 to 63 grams. It enables the sole of the club head to strike the ground flat if it is correct. Each club found in a golfers bag will have a different loft angle, usually ranging from 8. Second, lie is fitted after shaft length has been selected because length affects dynamic lie angle every 12 of length added makes the. That angle number is located between 0 and 90 degree and varies from club to club. In the golf world, there are three primary ways to see the orientation of the golf club at impact, and thus assess the lie angle. The lie angle of any golf clubhead is the angle between the center of the shaft and the sole. The standard lie angle of drivers and woods is in the range between 56 and 60 degrees, hybrid rescue clubs between 58 and. Golf manufacturers use lie angle charts to determine standard lie angles for each club, depending on the golfers height.
School of golfs martin hall and blair oneal reveal why proper lie angle is crucial to making solid contact with your irons and wedges. Loft, lie and face angle can all be affected by the simple twist of a wrench on your new adjustable driver, and if youre not taking advantage of this feature, youre missing out. I guess my golf goals are to win a tournament in my golf society on the golf club. The golf clubhead is placed into the gauge and adjusted until the center of the sole touches the base of the gauge with the club in the face angle. A lie angle is essentially the angle formed between the shaft of the club and the flat ground when the club is soled correctly sole flush to the ground. The lie of a golf club is a measurement of the angle between the club shaft and the bottom of the clubhead. An incorrect lie negatively impacts your golf club performance. Many of the newer adjustable drivers are built to adjust lie angle to.
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